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214 WISCONSIN HISTORICAL COLLECTIONS [Oct. 21
Mr. Giddings offered an amendment to strike out the ^'white*' before male persons, which would extend the right of suffrage to every male person over twenty-one years of age.
Mr. Magone offered as an amendment that the word male be stricken out and the right of suffrage be extended to females as well as males.
Moses M. Strong hoped the gentleman would withdraw the last amendment and aUow those in favor of negro suffrage to obtain a vote and have a fair test of the question.
Mr. Magone was in favor of females voting and wished to tack the motion to a popular resolution to insure its success.
Mr. Strong said he was a friend to females, and it was for that reason he did not wish to see them tacked on to negroes.
Some further conversation passed between the gentlemen on the subject, and the question was then put on the adoption of Mr. Magone's amendment, which was lost.
The question then recurred upon the amendment of Mr. Gid- dings to strike out the word *^white.'*
Warren Chase supported the amendment, not from any per¬ sonal considerations, for he was connected with abolitionism in no manner or form; neither was there a negro in the county which he represented; but he considered it a great matter of expediency to abolish this distinction; the existence of this one word in the article was, in his view, the very foundation upon which the abolition party would be raised and other parties distracted.
Mr. Ryan was opposed to the amendment. In the first place, he believed that this extension of the right of suffrage would cause our state to be overrun with runaway slaves from the South, who now made the Canadas their point of destination. He believed God had placed an insuperable mark of separation upon the two races, and he believed that those whom God had placed apart no man should bring together, as much as he did the command '*that those whom God had joined together no man should put asnnder.'' It was not right to mingle together two races whom God had declared could not mingle. Mr. Ryan continued his remarks at some length, citing the situation of the colored population in the city of New York as an instance
Object Description
| Page Title | Suffrage debates during first convention |
| Author | Wisconsin Constitutional Convention (1846) |
| Place of Publication | Madison, Wis. |
| Source Publisher | State Historical Society of Wisconsin |
| Source Creation Date | 1919 |
| Language | English |
| Digital Format | XML |
| Electronic Publisher | Wisconsin Histoircal Society |
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| Electronic Publication Date | 2004 |
| Digital Identifier | TP055000 |
| Description | During the 1846 constitutional convention, delegates debated who should be eligible to vote in Wisconsin. Because Wisconsin boasted a large immigrant population, the question of suffrage for the foreign-born was especially critical. Delegates also discussed whether to extend voting rights to African Americans, a provision that many feared would cause Wisconsin to become overrun with fugitive slaves. Whether women ought to be allowed to vote was a third issued that divided the electorate. This excerpt from the convention's journal reveals some of the primary arguments in the debate. |
| Owner | Wisconsin Historical Society Library |
| Format | Text |
| Recommended Citation | "Suffrage debates during first convention." Wisconsin Historical Collections, vol. 27 (Madison: State Historical Society of Wisconsin, 1919): 210-220; online facsimile at http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/turningpoints/search.asp?id=55 |
| Document Number | TP055 |
| Size | p. 210-220 ; 25 cm. |
| URL | http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/turningpoints/search.asp?id=55 |
| Owner Collection | Stacks |
| Owner Object ID | F576 .W81 v.27 |
| Series | Collections of the State Historical Society of Wisconsin ; v. 27 |
| Genre | government report |
| State/Province | Wisconsin |
| Race and Ethnicity | African Americans |
| Sub-Topic | The State Constitutions of 1846 and 1848 |
| Event Date | 1846-10-21 |
| Event Years | 1846 |
| Event Month | October |
| Event Day | 21 |
| Politics | Elections; Legislation; Naturalization; Women--Suffrage |
| Social Relations | Emigration and immigration; Race relations; |
| Type | Text |
Description
| Page Title | Page 214 |
| Author | Wisconsin Constitutional Convention (1846) |
| Place of Publication | Madison, Wis. |
| Source Publisher | State Historical Society of Wisconsin |
| Source Creation Date | 1919 |
| Language | English |
| Digital Format | JPG |
| Electronic Publisher | Wisconsin Histoircal Society |
| Rights | We believe that online reproduction of this material is permitted because its copyright protection has lapsed or because sharing it here for non-profit educational purposes complies with the Fair Use provisions of the U.S. Copyright Law. Teachers and students are generally free to reproduce pages for nonprofit classroom use. For advice about other uses, or if you believe that you possess copyright to some of this material, please contact us at asklibrary@wisconsinhistory.org. |
| Electronic Publication Date | 2004 |
| Digital Identifier | TP055005 |
| Owner | Wisconsin Historical Society Library |
| Format | Text |
| Size | 25 cm. |
| Owner Collection | Stacks |
| Owner Object ID | F576 .W81 v.27 |
| Series | Collections of the State Historical Society of Wisconsin ; v. 27 |
| Full Text | 214 WISCONSIN HISTORICAL COLLECTIONS [Oct. 21 Mr. Giddings offered an amendment to strike out the ^'white*' before male persons, which would extend the right of suffrage to every male person over twenty-one years of age. Mr. Magone offered as an amendment that the word male be stricken out and the right of suffrage be extended to females as well as males. Moses M. Strong hoped the gentleman would withdraw the last amendment and aUow those in favor of negro suffrage to obtain a vote and have a fair test of the question. Mr. Magone was in favor of females voting and wished to tack the motion to a popular resolution to insure its success. Mr. Strong said he was a friend to females, and it was for that reason he did not wish to see them tacked on to negroes. Some further conversation passed between the gentlemen on the subject, and the question was then put on the adoption of Mr. Magone's amendment, which was lost. The question then recurred upon the amendment of Mr. Gid- dings to strike out the word *^white.'* Warren Chase supported the amendment, not from any per¬ sonal considerations, for he was connected with abolitionism in no manner or form; neither was there a negro in the county which he represented; but he considered it a great matter of expediency to abolish this distinction; the existence of this one word in the article was, in his view, the very foundation upon which the abolition party would be raised and other parties distracted. Mr. Ryan was opposed to the amendment. In the first place, he believed that this extension of the right of suffrage would cause our state to be overrun with runaway slaves from the South, who now made the Canadas their point of destination. He believed God had placed an insuperable mark of separation upon the two races, and he believed that those whom God had placed apart no man should bring together, as much as he did the command '*that those whom God had joined together no man should put asnnder.'' It was not right to mingle together two races whom God had declared could not mingle. Mr. Ryan continued his remarks at some length, citing the situation of the colored population in the city of New York as an instance |
| Event Date | 1846-10-21 |
| Event Years | 1846 |
| Event Month | October |
| Event Day | 21 |
| Type | Text |